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Oct 9, 2012 11:00pm PDT
medicare providers like insurance companies that are overcharging. he has to attack on the issue of taxes. there aren't enough tax loopholes or tax deductions to pay for romney's tax cut unless you cut into home interest mortgage deductions, unless you get rid of state and local taxes. that will hit the middle class hard. you have to be honest about this. the debate hurt obama and helped romney, and romney's gotten a bump in the polls, although it seems to be flattening out. you look at the new poll in ohio, the president is at 51%, romney is at 47%. i think the president, the fundamental structure of the race hasn't been changed, but if he doesn't go on the attack, if biden doesn't do a good job against ryan, and if the president doesn't show up and isn't strong in the second debate, then you're going to have a tossup race. >> well, i would disagree with your approach, first of all. i don't approach it that way. that's going back and relegating all the old arguments. in spirit what i would do, unlike shrumy, i would take the big issue that is separating the candidates, don't get into the
MSNBC
Oct 13, 2012 12:00pm PDT
state. >> edward isaac, each side said it can be trusted to hold don middle-class taxes. take a listen. >> the middle class will pay less and people making a million or more will begin to contribute slightly more. >> there aren't enough rich people in small businesses to tax them for all their spending. the next time you hear that, watch out, middle class. the tax bill's coming to you. >> edward isaac, how does a voter make sense of this? what's the truth on taxes? >> well, that's one of the essential questions of the cam paint that's what the obama campaign is saying about this. but what the romney/ryan campaign says about the obama plan is they have not done anything to say where the spending would be cut, to say where they're going to be doing things to reduce the deficit, and that's going to fall on middle-class families so it's a question of philosophy here, whether you think there is enough and other things he says he'll do to cut spending in the budget to make up the money that would be lost in revenue from that 20% across the board tax cut or whether you believe that the plan t
MSNBC
Oct 8, 2012 7:00am PDT
different questions -- >> i'm going to call him a liar now. no. talking about the tax plans at the rallies. he was saying the same things on wednesday night and the other piece about how -- >> let me stop you there. i want to read to you if i can about a fact check about the tax. not cutting taxes for the wealthy. in the primary, cut taxes for everyone including the top 1%. suspect that a change? >> no, it's not. he's been saying the entire time that while he would be in favor of an across the board tax cut of 25% for every taxpayer, those making over a certain amount of money he would close tax loopholes so their overall taxes that they pay and the overall tax plan would be tax neutral. i mean, it would be revenue neutral. the other piece is you mentioned this other story -- >> the story is specifics, hasn't it? >> i'll keep going back to this to seep the record straight. you all talking about this story that mitt romney had been saying and reported in other places that this is a new softer side of mitt romney. he's been telling that story for months. and so, i mean, this is all j
MSNBC
Oct 8, 2012 10:00am PDT
taxes on the middle class. mitt romney has no chance of raising taxes on the middle class. his republican base would kill him. the concept of raising taxes on the middle class will never happen. >> if not, something has to give. then he can't deliver tax cuts. >> you can come up with a tax reform plan. increased revenue that takes down the rates, makes it fairer everybody. it's difficult, but you can do it. >> you can't take the rates down 20% though on top of the bush tax cuts. >> romney said, i have reform principles. they are going to help grow the economy and create jobs but the idea he can raise taxes is fanciful. he'll never do it. >> if you are going to cut taxes for the wealthy as much as mitt romney wants to there is no way or he would have put forth the pro growth plan. he's ring on magic like harry potter will be his treasury secretary. >> he's not going to be able to cut taxes for rich people. he doesn't want to. the idea of pro growth taxes -- >> didn't he say 20% across the board? >> he did, but he also said if you take up the deductions, rich people won't get a b
MSNBC
Oct 9, 2012 12:00am PDT
couple of years. last week romney lied about his policies on taxes, education and health care. today the candidate's positions went under the knife during a speech at the military institute. romney laid out a complete reversal on his strategy for middle east peace. >> i'll recommit america to the goal of a democratic, prosperous state living side by side in peace and security with the jewish state of israel. >> the new mitt romney is committed to a two-state solution, but this is not what mitt romney told a group of donors in private. >> priceless tape. direct from romney's mouth, you hope for some stability and hope something will happen. listen to the new mitt romney today in his opinion on hope. >> i know the president hopes for a safer, freer and more prosperous middle east aligned with us. i share this hope. but hope is not a strategy. >> the new mitt romney didn't flinch when he made a false accusation. >> i'll champion free trade and restore it as a critical element of our strategy. both in the middle east and across the world. the president has not signed one new free trade agree
MSNBC
Oct 9, 2012 4:00pm PDT
week's debate, it's actually a plan to cut $5 billion in taxes, but he did it again tonight on cnn just a short time ago. the obama attacks are false, let's see what you think here. >> he ignores the fact that they're going to limit the deduction and -- he ignores that part. obviously that was corrected by the deputy campaign manager who stipulated the $5 trillion number was wrong. it's completely wrong. the combination of limiting deductions as well as growth of our economy will make up for the reduction in rate. >> bob shrum, thank got in the rest of this discussion with wolf blitzer, he clarified the fact he's going to cut $5 trillion in revenue, a lot of it from wealthy people. >>> he's not going to the bank, he's going to let that tax cut stand. you can call it a lie, he's cutting taxes for the rich. he says he's going to offset that, but when asked by wolf blitzer, are you going after where the money is, the mortgage deduction? rule going after charitable, which everybody seems to like? i'm not going to keep those preferences. how can he do it? is he houdini? >> he can't do it. th
MSNBC
Oct 14, 2012 7:00am PDT
say continually that mitt romney proposed a $5 trillion tax cut. when his own campaign -- they said we can get $3.8 trillion from deductions. that would only make it a $1.2 trillion tax cut. that could made up with economic growth. president obama continues to say it's $5 trillion. even his spokeswoman has said it's not a $5 trillion tax cut. >> this is interesting, diane. bill, i think she brings up an interesting distinction between birtherism as you point out, i think that's accurate. certainly you don't have a majority of american services are not birthers, but there's enough of it infecting the sort of the american discourse right now that it becomes a leedge it talking point. >> it's not being talked about now. the birthers are not on the front page of the newspapers. you can't judge people by the fringe groups. >> i got to say, when you have presidential candidates -- i'm going to give you that it's a fringe. i'm going to give you that. for example, that mitt romney is not a birther. there does seem to be a distinction between for example those kinds of aspects or questions o
MSNBC
Oct 8, 2012 7:00pm PDT
debate he said he's not going to cut taxes for the wealthy. in the primary he said he's going to cut taxes for everyone. >> i'm going to lower rates across the board for all americans. isn't that a change? >> let me repeat what i said. >> lying, denying and alibiing. >> is that leadership? >> we can't debate the debate. >> the war continues. >> let's move on. >> we are awaiting a major foreign policy address. >> romney boiled down the president's foreign policy to one of hope. >> hope is not a strategy. >> but on actual foreign policy romney's specifics were rather thin. >> i'll support the libyan's people efforts to support a lasting government. >> how about iran? >> prevent them from acquiring nuclear weapons capability. >> that's the same. >> this is the same guy who couldn't even go to the olympics. >> he will say anything, he will do anything. >> his mention of russia. >> without question of number one geo political foe. >> there are two kinds of success, initial and ultimate. >> i still believe you in and i hope you still believe in me. if you vote for me in november i'll finis
MSNBC
Oct 12, 2012 5:00pm PDT
ban of abortion, do we deliver huge new shipments of money in the form of tax cuts to the country's wealthy? it's important that the president do this for the basic reason that people in this country know what they're voting for and if they decide against. and that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. "the ed show" with ed schultz starts right now. >>> good evening, americans. welcome to "the ed show" live from minneapolis. when you stand with middle class workers, you can't lose, and he ain't no ordinary joe. joe biden proved that last night. and as winston churchill once said, i like a man who grins when he fights. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >>> these are the folks who talk about 47% of the american people being unwilling to take responsibility. it's about time governor romney takes some responsibility. >> the vice president keeps the hits coming after his knockout debate with paul ryan. >> stop talking about how you care about people. show me something. >> richard wolffe on the education of congressman paul ryan. >> ronald reagan -- >> now you're jack ke
MSNBC
Oct 8, 2012 1:00am PDT
economic theory of tax cuts for the very rich, despite the fact that he denied the existence of tax cuts or the existence of math. the notion that let's go to war on wall street -- go to war with "sesame street" but give wall street a big wet kiss. that's exactly what got us into this mess. >> that's not what they saw. i get the interpretation. you have a campaign to win. but what they saw was one guy who seemed to be someone they'd never seen before. he shattered the fiction of the advertising. he was a guy brimming with new ideas and energy. and they saw the president of the united states sleep walking. >> mike, i don't think -- >> let me finish. the tired contrast rang a bell. romney has ideas, and the president has no vision for his second term. and i think that's what hurt him. >> mike, i don't doubt this was someone they had never seen before. i think there were people in the romney campaign who had never seen this candidate. a week ago paul ryan was asked to explain the math of a $4.8 trillion tax cut. and he said i don't have time. mitt romney said we just don't do math. like mat
MSNBC
Oct 12, 2012 7:00pm PDT
being unwilling to take responsibility. 82% of them pay their payroll taxes and other taxes, and at an effective rate higher than romney pays his taxes. over 10% of them are senior citizens on social security. the rest are disabled vets and veterans and military personnel fighting now. that's the 47%. the 47% this nation depends on to build this country. folks, it's about time governor romney takes some responsibility. takes some responsibility to help the american people in the middle class, instead of lining up to sign a pledge to a guy named grover norquist. >> for me, one of my favorite moments in the debate was him pointing out the effective rate romney pays compared to what other people in the real world pay. i'm not sure how many people jumped on that as their favorite little moment. >> you and me, lawrence. >> but biden and is finding more effective ways of isolating that romney tax return 14% number. >> and it wasn't just that. biden i thought actually figured out what obama didn't figure out a week before, which is how to deal with the romney/ryan ticket on taxes and on medic
MSNBC
Oct 11, 2012 11:30pm PDT
, more borrowing, higher taxes, a government takeover of health care. it's not working. it's failed to create the jobs we need. 23 million americans are struggling for work today. 15% of americans are in poverty. this is not what a real recovery looks like. you deserve better. mitt romney and i want to earn your support. we're offering real reforms for a real recovery for every american. mitt romney, his experience, his ideas, his solutions is uniquely qualified to get this job done. at a time when we have a jobs crisis in america, wouldn't it be nice to have a job creator in the white house? the choice is clear. a stagnant economy that promotes more government dependency, or a dynamic growing economy that promotes opportunity and jobs? mitt romney and i will not duck the tough issues. and we will not blame others for the next four years. we will take responsibility and we will not try to replace our founding principles. we will reapply our founding principles. the choice is clear. and the choice rests with you. and we ask you for your vote. thank you. >> and thank you, both, again. th
MSNBC
Oct 9, 2012 5:00pm PDT
purposes. >> i don't think cutting taxes or preking the wealthy is the way to go. >> i was lucky enough to find a job at the beginning of the summer, but it's really difficult to find a job when you're a college student. >> interesting. those students were in line to get tickets for president obama's speech later this week at the university of miami. in 2008, senator obama beat senator john mccain by 2 to 1 in the margin in the youth vote in this country. it's crucial for the president to get similar numbers this time around if he's going to win the state of florida. of course, to vote they must be registered and voter registration drives have been underway for months. according to statistics from the zx 2.8 million people are registered as independents or with a third party. the numbers are interesting, but it means nothing if there's no emotional component that will motivate them to do it. this is why the debates are so important in today's information culture. there must be a real emotional appeal by president obama if he's to succeed in getting these voters out to the polls.
MSNBC
Oct 8, 2012 3:00pm PDT
and suddenly mr. romney is ignoring the fact that his tax plan is a give away to the rich. the only problem, that's not the mr. romney who's running for president and this weekend newt gingrich, one of his top surrogates let the cat out of the bag. >> standing on the stage with you in arizona, this is what mitt romney said. number one, i said today we're going to cut taxes on everyone across the country by 20%, including the top 1%. mr. speaker, you mentioned that your opponent, mitt romney, had a problem with being dishonest and the primary of my question is, was he dishonest when he said that? >> i think it's clear he changed. >> clearly he's changed. another romney surrogate even admitted it. >> that's all you're seeing here. it's very typical. we we strong conservatives understand that. it's campaign strategy. >> it's typical. just campaign strategy. that's all you're seeing here. very typical. but here's the thing. the more he moves to the middle, the more hypocritical he looks. this weekend, moderate campaign with none other than congressman allen west. yes, the same allen wes
MSNBC
Oct 10, 2012 1:00am PDT
value in one another. >> you can do that by cutting taxes? >> those are your words, not mine. >> thank you very much, sir. >> that was kind of strange. trying to stuff words in people's mouths? >> it it sounds like you're -- >> ryan folks putting the paper in front of the camera and everything. vice presidential nominee paul ryan getting annoyed in this interview with terry camp in flint, michigan. the campaign even after the interview was over still went out of their way to trash the reporter that paul ryan walked out of that interview on. the campaign given on the record quotes calling the reporter an embarrassment. the city where that reporter works and where that interview took place does have the worst violent crime rate in the nation. so that line of questioning here for mr. ryan was understandable. maybe even predictable. but beyond the newsworthiness of paul ryan getting up and taking off his microphone and ending the interview and beyond the newsworthiness of the campaign going after this reporter, there was what that reporter was able to elicit from paul ryan. there's his pre
MSNBC
Oct 10, 2012 6:00pm PDT
rally that day admitting that president obama has not raised taxes while he has been in office. seriously? mitt romney is dropping that argument? he doesn't think president obama has raised taxes? no, not really. his campaign later saying, never mind what mitt romney just said. that's not actually what he believes. sure, he said president obama didn't raise taxes, and president obama didn't raise taxes, but really, mitt romney officially thinks that he did. they have done this over and over and over and over again, on big issues like health reform, on small issues like whether he met a guy or not. and it is a ridiculous technique. i mean, think about what this means for the long run. i mean, the romney campaign is training the country to not believe this guy when he is talking. they're training the country to feel that, you know, wherever you hear mitt romney saying something today, don't worry, it doesn't really matter. it is all subject to revision later. long-term, this is a weird technique. it has been a strange political technique from the get-go this year. but mostly, it
MSNBC
Oct 8, 2012 4:00pm PDT
in the first debate because he denied the path he has chosen, denied the big tax cut from 35% down to 28% for people at the top bracket. the all-out elimination of the estate tax, the big-time cut in the corporate rate. he denied his plan to eliminate medicare, denied he would kill coverage for those with pre-existing conditions. he got away without bothering to deny his plan to let the automobile industry to go bankrupt and to dump 40 million people to wait in the emergency room. let's look at some of the latest polling in the wake of wednesday's debate. this afternoon pew released a poll that showed a dramatic shift toward romney. this poll covers the four days since the debate, and it has romney pulling even with president obama among registered voters, 46% even. four weeks ago pew had obama up by nine among registered voters, so this has been a huge shift in the pew poll. the move in the pew poll towards romney is greater among likely voters. romney is surging ahead to 49%. four weeks ago obama led among likely voters by eight. now to the latest gallup tracking poll which cover
MSNBC
Oct 10, 2012 8:00pm PDT
-choice. and what he's doing here, whether it's on choice, on pre-existing conditions, on tax cuts for the rich, is all a deception designed to trick people into voting against themselves. >> so, terry, it seems like mitt romney will do the bidding of the fundamentalists like tony perkins if he becomes president? >> i think he will, but i think it's his own bidding too. i think it was important of you to show that clip of him bullying during the debate in 2002. that is the way he is with women. the stories that have emerged out of massachusetts, where he tried to bully a woman who was -- whose pregnancy was actually threatening her life. she had -- she and her husband had gotten permission from the mormon church elders to terminate this life-threatening abortion. he went in and tried to intimidate her into not terminating this -- that pregnancy. that is the way he is with women. and he -- so my sense of him is that he will lie without conscious, because it's the same thing, as intimidating and bullying. it's manipulation, it's just doing whatever he wants to do in order to get what he
MSNBC
Oct 13, 2012 9:00am PDT
the president's new tv ad that strikes a familiar theme. hitting mitt romney on his tax plan. take a listen. >> you paid 14% in federal taxes. that's the capital gains rate. is that fair to the guy who makes $50,000 and paid a higher rate than you did? so you think it is fair. >> yeah. i think it's the right way to encourage economic growth. >> lower tax rates for him, then us. is that the way to grow america? >> well, expect that one seen on a tv screen near you especially if you're in a swing state. from mitt romney and the gop meanwhile a new ad strategy. the "new york post" says romney and his colleagues are looking at a high rate high media strategy. pro romney ad buys double and even tripled in some key swing states this week. >>> later today paul ryan wrapped up a campaign rally just a few short hours ago. he echoed a theme we heard in the debate friday night. >> the president had his chance. he had his choices. he came in with one-party rule. able to do everything on his own choosing. and just look at where we are now. 23 million americans are struggling for work today. in
MSNBC
Oct 6, 2012 5:00am PDT
in tax cuts that favor the wealthy and yet the fellow on the stage last night looked like mitt romney said he did not know anything about that. >> also on thursday mitt romney took another huge step in his unfolding journey of self-discovery. speaking to shawn hennessy on fox news he repudiated the infamous 47% comments he made in may. >> in this case i said something that was just completely wrong. i absolutely believe, however, that my life has shown that i care about 100% and that's been demonstrated throughout my life and this whole campaign is about the 100%. when i become president it will be about helping the 100%. >>> all right. 100%. we're all in on the 100%. first let me throw it up to you guys. we've been chewing over the debate performance. i think my own take, that the president did not perform well in the debate. that's a real novel take on my part. that's what you tuned in for at home. but i don't think he performed as catastrophically poorly as other people seem to think he did. that's more or less where i'm at. maybe that's not great insightment for real hot talk. >>
MSNBC
Oct 12, 2012 2:30am PDT
>> it's never been done before. >> jack kennedy lowered tax -- >> now you're jack kennedy? >> ronald reagan. >> you are no jack kennedy, 24 years later. joe biden turned up the intensity after a lackluster debate performance at the top of the ticket. good morning. i'm willie geist and this is "way too early." in danville, kentucky, they were pressed from the moderator. some of the shorpest points of contrast came on the subject of iran's nuclear program and the two sides conflicting plans for medicare. the vice president made an effort to be engaged even when congressman ryan had the floor. unlike president obama, the vice president kept his eyes on his opponent smiling and shaking his head as the republican candidate attacked. >>> the hot topic of libya and the deadly assault in benghazi that killed four americans including the u.s. ambassador. president obama's deputy campaign manager suggested the only reason the obama's handling of the attack is because the republicans are talking about it on the campaign trail. she said that was reckless and irresponsib irresponsible.
MSNBC
Oct 13, 2012 4:00am PDT
on their tax cut plan. things the president did not do against governor romney. you'll see after, coming out next tuesday, you know, whether the president's taken this to heart. i think you've got two strategies. one is to counter all the things that the obama campaign thinks were lies, you know, coming out of romney. and also to sort of lay out a road map of what the president has done, and what he intends to do in a second term. >> aimee, as the president does study for tuesday, are there any clear openings that paul ryan left for him to exploit when he faces mitt romney? >> i think what you're going to see is he's going to ask for specifics on tuesday night. he's going to push him on the tax plan. he's also going to push the famous 47% line. you know, democrats really were upset that he didn't use that line of attack before. vice president biden sort of opened the door for him to do that on tuesday. i think you're going to see more a more aggressive obama take that stance a little more. >> but the fact that the president didn't go after him during the debate on the 47% and the
MSNBC
Oct 6, 2012 12:00pm PDT
about a tax hike. let's listen. >> you know the phrase they always use? obama and biden want to raise taxes by a trillion dollars. guess what? yes, we do, in one regard. we want to let that $1 trillion tax cut expire so the middle class doesn't have to bear the burden of all the money going to the super-wealthy. >> does the vice president's style create a risk for the democratic ticket? >> he does. you know, it's something that they've been watching with joe biden for years, but joe biden has been preparing for an entire week. by thursday when the debate happens, he will have spent almost a week at his home in wilmington preparing. and when he is prepared, he is much better in that he doesn't make those same gaffes. when he nose what it is that he needs to say and he's not going off the cuff in this style, he does better. >> on thursday, joe biden went aggressively after governor romney on taxes. let's take a look at that. >> you just never know what game or what position governor romney's going to come with. you know, the centerpiece of their economic policy, so far, has been their t
MSNBC
Oct 14, 2012 4:30am PDT
with the most favorable small business tax benefit. what state should we consider? >> i don't think it comes from where you register. it's where the business is headquartered. if you are in nevada, florida, texas where there are favorable tax treatments, that's great. where you register, it doesn't matter. >> that's right. as you continue to grow your business, you will think about where to put different businesses. so you might have one office someone. distribution might be set up somewhere else and negotiate about tax credits, bringing jobs to the area. tax is something you want to have experts involved in and look at every aspect of your business. >> that was my next question, how do you figure this out? >> a tax expert. it's very complex. >> thank you both so much. this is fantastic advice. if you have a question for our experts, all you have to do is go to our website. it's openforum.com/yourbusiness. once you get there, hit the ask the show link to submit a question. again, it's openforum.com/yourbusiness. or, if you would rather send an e-mail, it's yourbusiness@msnbc.com. >>
MSNBC
Oct 11, 2012 10:00am PDT
, medicare reform, taxes, are going to be major issues tonight when the candidates who have been debating those very questions in separate stump speeches, now they get to do in person face-to-face. joining me now, pennsylvania senator pat toomey, served on last year's super committee to try to tackle the deficit and of course has been a budget hawk throughout your tenure in the house and now the senate. thank you very much. >> thanks for having me. >> great to have you here. what should paul ryan say when joe biden goes after him on how devastating, these are biden's words, devastating the budget cuts would on discretionary domestic spending if he sticks to the defense entitlement and tax postures that he's outlined? >> well, a few things, andrea. one is the simple fact that over the ten-year budget window of the ryan budget, spending on average grows yfr year. it grows by 3% a year. so most americans -- >> not every category. >> true. but most people think that a government that's at a record size as a percentage of compete, the government that has doubled in spending in the last ten yea
MSNBC
Oct 14, 2012 4:00am PDT
something that you vote on. i mean, this is not a subtle sort of tax policy nuance. this is about having the choice to have an abortion and the dialogue that goes on between a woman and her doctor. and it was clear that the romney/ryan ticket is in a place that the obama/biden ticket is not. >> well, you made a point that i like to make. we can argue about a lot of issues, as i said. there were a lot of issues debated last night like benghazi, which are vitally important, but not exactly a voting issue. now to you, ron reagan. a voting issue is an issue like gun rights to some people who are hunters or sportsmen. they will vote on that issue alone. a lot of women, not just single women, many women are watching very carefully what these male politicians are saying about their rights, and that's how they vote sometimes. >> well, indeed, and as well they should. it's tempting to say that, well, paul ryan might be the extremist here, mitt romney, he's the reasonable guy and he's at the head of the ticket. that's exactly what paul ryan is saying now. well, it's romney's ticket so -- >> depend
MSNBC
Oct 10, 2012 2:00am PDT
states, continues to say that the $5 trillion tax cut romney's proposing would add to the deficit and romney insists it is absolutely not true. >> he said if he says it's not true, then it's not true. okay. >> reporter: in battleground ohio, president obama insists mitt romney's tax cut will add $5 trillion to the deficit. >> if it's true that it's not going to add to the deficit, that leaves only one option and that's asking middle class families to foot bill. >> reporter: the president's charge of a $5 trillion tax cut is obviously inaccurate and wrong. >> reporter: romney also in ohio mocked the obama campaign's mocking his plan to cut funds for pbs. >> big bird. >> big bird. >> big bird. >> he's focused on saving big bird. kind of a strange thing in my view because you see i'm focused on helping the american people get good jobs. >> reporter: sesame's street now asked the obama campaign to pull the big bird ad, yet there are weightier questions here as congress looks in to whether the u.s. was warned of the deadly libya attack. >> twice in the six month lead up, you had bombings a
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Oct 6, 2012 1:00pm PDT
comes back to jobs. if we don't have people working and paying taxes, you can't fund the entitlement programs. if we f we reform them, you can't fund them if people aren't getting back to work. under governor rick scott, over 150,000 jobs created in the state of florida. >> let me address that. >> go ahead. >> i just want to address the medicare question, because it is critically important to florida. we have the largest number of medicare recipients in the country. the romney/ryan plan wants to change medicare as we know it. they want to create a voucher program. that's not what floridians want. and i think that is what we're seeing out there every day when we're out there talking to folks. they don't want what romney is trying to sell them on medicare. >> scott, quickly, one more question. how do you think president obama can court the moderate vote in florida? >> well, the president has been courting the moderate vote in florida for four years, frankly. he has been talking to folks about growing the middle class, about tax cuts for middle class, about really expanding small busine
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Oct 12, 2012 8:00am PDT
exposed for lying on the tax plan. he was exposed for lying on medicare. he was exposed to somebody that wants to privatize social security. he was exposed as a ticket that is politicalizing a tragedy in the middle east. the vice president called him out. i was so proud of him. >> some are saying the one weak point was the response to the initial question on libya. >> they sent the u.n. ambassador out to say this is because of a protest and youtube video. >> that is exactly what we were told by intelligence community. >> by who? >> the intelligence community told us that as they learned more facts about exactly what happened. they changed their assessment. >> joe scarborough this morning, as well as in "the daily standard," they said this that biden throws the intelligence community under the bus. what's your thought here? was the vice president not aware of the congressional testimony that happened on tuesday? the full tick tock that had come out? it didn't sync with his answer, necessarily. >> i think there will be more to be said on this today. i'm not going to prejudge what migh
MSNBC
Oct 9, 2012 7:00am PDT
really understand where mitt romney stands on the issues. he talked about not taxing the wealthy. now he says he will tax the wealthy. he talks about energy independence now but didn't support the president on his programs to create alternative forms of energy for our country, which this president did. he talks about tax changes to help business development. who did that? president obama, with 100% tax credit in manufacturing, for example, which has just sizzled across the industrial midwest with the business start-ups that we see. even art furnaces being installed on the ohio republic steel. we haven't seen this in two decades. so, he can talk as a candidate, but the president has done it in a very difficult situation that he inherited from the bush administration, where the whole country's economy collapsed because of those titans up on wall street that tied up the finances of this country, and literally, we've had the largest transfer of wealth in american history from main street to wall street. you think that mitt romney, who was a part of that culture, is going to change anything f
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Oct 10, 2012 12:00pm PDT
to talk about the plans and seen paul ryan think of the issue of how to pay for the tax cut plan. paul ryan's been asked the time a few times and interviews on fox and you would think of as friendly territory. he said i don't know. he said i don't have enough time to get in to the numbers on this. i totally expect biden to come after ryan on that aggressively. i think the thought is, though, republicans had a long time. the ryan campaign and romney campaign knows this is coming and looking at romney's performance, it was glib, superficially appealing. he was able to dance around not providing details so i don't know exactly how they do it. i just -- i have a kind of hunch that, you know, they'll find something that paul ryan can say that will, you know, that will get around the criticism that biden's going to come in with. >> on the lowering expectations front, the president came out said and he thinks joe biden is going to be terrific. surprisingly, they're not lowering expectations and i think trying to pump people up a little bit. you could not think of two different sort of p
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Oct 10, 2012 3:00pm PDT
saying all along? so that means he's been saying this about taxes. >> i will not reduce the share paid by high-income individuals. i know that you and your running mate keep saying that and it's a popular thing to say with a lot of people but it's not the case. >> it's not the case. the answer was on the up and up, right? >> there were so many misrepresentations, it's going to take me a while. number one, i said that we're going to cut taxes on everyone by 20%, including the top 1%. >> huh? well, that's odd. but the tax issue was probably a fluke. let's try his answer on regulation. >> regulation is essential. you can't have a free market work without regulation. >> it's essential. so essential that he's actually said this. >> this president has enacted job killing regulations. i'll eliminate them. >> regulation is so essential that it must be eliminated. but don't worry, he was playing it straight on coverage for pre-existing conditions. >> actually, it's a lengthy description but, number one, pre-existing conditions are covered under my plan. >> it's a lengthy description. but t
MSNBC
Oct 11, 2012 10:00pm PDT
went out and rescued general motors. we went ahead and made sure we cut taxes for the middle class and in addition to that, when that occurred, what did romney do? romney said, no, let detroit go bankrupt. we moved in and helped people refinance their homes. governor romney said, no, let foreclosures hit the bottom. but it shouldn't be surprising for a guy who says 47% of the american people are unwilling to take responsibility for their own lives. my friend recently in a speech in washington said 30% of the american people are takers. these people are my mom and dad, the people i grew up with, my neighbors. they pay more effective tax than governor romney pays in his federal income tax. they are elderly people who, in fact, are living off social security. they are veterans and people fighting in afghanistan right now who are, quote, not paying any taxes. i've had it up to here with this notion that 47% of -- it's about time they take some responsibility here. and instead of signing pledges to grover norquist not to ask the wealthiest among us to contribute to bring back the middle
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Oct 8, 2012 1:00pm PDT
that isn't a tax cut. oh, i should say finally saw romney do this because that line has been a constant refrain, particularly early in his campaign. >> i like big bird. i like my kids -- my grand kids watching big bird. i'm afraid big bird will have to get used to kellogg's con flakes. we're not going to kill big bird, but big bird will have advertisements. >> reaction to mitt's assault on public television is the perfect answer to anyone who claims that debates don't matter. pbs says 91% of households watch their programming at some point during the year, and to them what mitt says about big bird, or what paul ryan may say this thursday about whatever he's called matters is great day. left unanswered, however, is how much mitt thinks this will save the economy. well, i'll let him explain. >> i'm not going to get rid of big bird but there's probably going to be advertising on pbs because i'm not willing to borrow billions of dollars from places like china to pay for things we don't absolutely have to have. >> billions, mitt. hardly. the federal government will give about $445 m
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Oct 13, 2012 1:00pm PDT
, education like pell grants for the expense of providing the very wealthy additional tax cuts. 120,000 families throughout the country averaging $8 million a year will receive tax cuts from the romney plan. that is not good for the average virginian. the average virginian wants to send their kid to school here in virginia like odu campus, where i was just at. they need pell grants. and the romney/ryan plan will gut the pell grants to the expense of let's give the wealthy additional tax cuts. the virginians are rejecting the double down on trickle-down economics. >> voter registration deadline on monday. how important is turnout going to be? is it going to come down in virginia at least to at least turning out the base? >> it's all going to be -- >> it won't be about the base. >> it will be. >> brian, go ahead. >> it's going to be about the suburbs of washington, d.c. prince william, loudoun counties and hampden roads. that's where we're going to be watching the election returns, the suburbs of washington and hampden roads. >> and you both agree on that, right, brian? it's all going to
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Oct 14, 2012 9:00am PDT
all, it's to get a congress that will pass jobs bill. second, work on the deficit. third is tax reform and fourth is an immigration policy that makes sense. the reason i know these are good policies is because governor romney adopted three policies on the stage of the debate in the last debate. so i'm looking forward to the debate on tuesday night to see wh mitt romney we get. >> will you say president obama in the first debate, he didn't do a great job of establishing his policies in the first one. >> alex, i thought it was a tie. i understand most americans didn't think it was a tie and they thought president obama did not win the debate. i thought it was a tie. i think the president needs to get out there and be clear. and i agree with his analysis on the path of 270. >> you guys will end as being friends. that's nice. >> i'm trying to help it have governor out. >> i'm sure he appreciated it. >>> office politics morning joe style. a prediction on how this election might turn out from the hosts. many of my patients still clean their dentures with toothpaste. but they have to u
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Oct 10, 2012 2:00pm PDT
is weak. he says i won't cut taxes for the rich but everything up until then he he will. i'll just create a better economy by snapping my fingers now pip don't know how long he can get away with this, maybe until election day, but he's taking this position that it almost doesn't matter what he says as long as it sounds good at the time. >> cecile, let me ask you about, when you get up in the morning and worry about the possibility of this election going the wrong way from your perspective of a volunteer for obama, when you really think, and you have to talk to your best friends whom we care most about, when you tell pro choice women what they should fear from the next administration, should it be a romney administration, what is your concerns? what are the list of concerns you have? >> first of all, the thought that my daughters would have fewer rights than i do, or my granddaughters or other folks' children, women would literally lose the right to make their own personal decisions about health care, about having children is absolutely inkretdible. that is frightening. the other th
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Oct 10, 2012 10:00am PDT
him with certainly a certain element of the conservative movement other than taxes and for some of them even more than taxes abortion is the litmus test issue. it's also the issue on which governor romney has been absolutely totally positively the most flip floppy and squishyist. what he said yesterday was not exactly a flip flop back. it was essentially saying i don't have any legislation in mind. >> a lawyerly comment. >> at the top of my agenda. it's true. he hasn't proposed legislation and he also didn't say he would veto something that came from him. as we saw in the debate last week it is a definite shift in tone, a shift in tone that could appeal to both women voters and other independent voters who are trying to decide who this guy really is. >> chris cizilla, on that point, as to who this guy really is, andrea psaul issued a response saying -- what is your take away from all this? >> i think what he is trying to do is he understands -- and i would say this goes to the prominence of ann romney of late as well, he understands that women are absolutely essential he's not goin
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Oct 12, 2012 1:00pm PDT
hostage the middle class tax cut to the super wealthy. just get out of the way. but it shouldn't be surprising for a guy who says 47% of the american people are unwilling to take responsible responsible for their own lives. >> i think the vice president very well knows that sometimes the words don't come out of your mouth the right way. >> but i always say what i mean. have you ever seen me rope-a-dope. ♪ how you like me now ♪ how like me now ♪ how you like me now >> he came, he saw, and he told the truth, and the great pretender, paul ryan, was exposed after a no holds barred full out slugfest of a debate with vice president joe biden last night. and for democrats across the country, it is tgi biden, a man who brought the fight to congressman ryan with a huge heart and lethal honesty on everything from medicare to taxes, abortion, middle class opportunity, and foreign policy. and this afternoon the vice president landed in ryan's home turf of wisconsin hungry for more action going after romney/ryan on the 47%. >> these are the folks who talk about 47% of the american people b
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Oct 11, 2012 2:00am PDT
diamond also made headlines yesterday backing democrats on the tax cut debate saying he's willing to pay a higher individual rate. >>> meanwhile, west gate resort mogul david siegel known for his 90,000 square foot home warned i had 6500 employees if president obama is re-elected, he'll be forced to downsize or shut down entirely. >>> eastman kodak wants a bankruptcy judge to allow it to end benefits to 56,000 retirees. on the data front, september foreclosure filings dropped to a five-year low. and home heating oil could be 19% more expensive this winter. according to forbes, columbus, ohio, is the best u.s. city for working moms followed by new orleans, hartford, cincinnati and providence. >>> it is the end of an era for coca-cola. the very last iconic 6 1/2 ounce returnable glass bottle rolled off the production line in minnesota on tuesday. >>> finally, how about this for a cheesy will you be 'tis ti stunt. pizza hut is offering free pizza for life or over $15,000 for anyone willing to stand up and ask either candidate if they prefer sausage or pepperoni on their pie. aren't ther
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Oct 9, 2012 1:00pm PDT
. >> suddenly a guy pretending to be mitt romney stood on a stage next to me. what $5 trillion tax cut? i don't know anything about a $5 trillion tax cut. >> we are going to win this. we're taking back the white house. >> the romney family is taking back this campaign. >> or not. >> that was kind of strange. trying to stick words in people's mouths. >> stay in your seats. there's just four weeks until election day. >> the top rate, for instance, would go from 35% to 28%. >> don't pay any attention to that tax cut behind the curtain. >> i'm not sure exactly precisely with what i said but i stand behind it, whatever it was. >> we begin exactly 28 days until the election with both the president and his challenger declaring they will win a race that is anything but settled. today their paths will cross again in ohio, the state that may yet decide this election. amid new signs of urgency from both campaigns. case in point, this afternoon's gallup poll showing the president leading mitt romney 49% to 46% among registered voters. among likely voters it's romney up by two leading the presi
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Oct 11, 2012 2:00pm PDT
person 45 hood, on cuts of things like capital gains, and getting rid of estate taxes and lowering the top individual rate. all the wealth going to the top people, can biden nail him on that stuff? >> i did an interview with the vice president back in august and he hasn't done very many ser interviews. we talked about this thing. this is obviously before what happened in denver last week, but this is exactly what he was saying he was going to do. he was saying there's these stark differences between us and them, between me and paul ryan. i'm going to go up to him and i'm going to say -- i'm going to examine the implications of what his policy would say mean in the real lives of real people and i'm going to stand up to him and say, sir, on this and this and this and this you're dead wrong. he had already in his mind the absolute polar opposite stylistically than president obama did. >> do you think biden can handle that without getting into the weeds? >> that's going to be the challenge because both of them are fluent on policy. how do you keep it at 20,000 feet. i know from talking
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Oct 7, 2012 7:00am PDT
his strategy for economic recovery, to fill the revenue gap for a result from tax cuts is an exercise in shadow boxing futility. he hasn't yet told us what it is he's planning to do. but by hitching his wagon to paul ryan and endorsing ryan's budget plan, he attached himself to clearly articulated policy and a record that leaves the whole ticket exposed to attack which gives joe biden an opening to hit romney so hard -- to hit ryan so hard that mitt romney is going to feel it too. from the sound of it, the vice president seems to be getting his weight up. >> what i've been doing mostly is quite frankly, studying up on congressman ryan's positions. i just want to make sure that when i say these things that i don't have the congressman no, no, no, i don't have that position or that's not the governor's position. so it's mainly getting the factual predicates. >> when it comes to strategy thursday, in this and only this, he may want to steal a move from dick cheney. recall in 2004 when president george w. bush choked in the first of his three debates against john kerry. there was
MSNBC
Oct 9, 2012 3:00pm PDT
offering. the centerpiece of governor romney's economic plan is a new $5 trillion tax cuts that favors the wealthiest americans, but most of the economists who have crunched the numbers said that paying for governor romney's tax plan -- one or the other. pick your poison. last week when we were on stage together. governor romney just pretended it didn't exist. what $5 trillion tax cut? i don't know anything about a $5 trillion tax cut. pay no attention for that tax cut under the carpet behind the curtain. >>> romney's pretending his tax cut plan doesn't exist, but the president won't let him get away with it. he also won't let him get away with hitting the middle class to protect his own tax rate. >> governor romney said it's fair he pays a lower tax rate than a teacher or autoworker who makes $50,000. he is wrong. i refuse to ask middle-class families to give up their deductions for owning a home or raising their kids just to pay for another millionaire's tax cut. i refuse to pay for that tax cuss by asking you students to pay more for college or kicking kits out of headstart or elimi
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Oct 13, 2012 2:30am PDT
. at the same time that my tax plan has already lowered taxes for 98% of families, i also lowered taxes for small businesses 18 times. and what i want to do is continue the tax rates, the tax cuts that we put into place for small businesses and families. >> i talked to a guy who has a very small business. he is in the electronics business in st. louis. he has four employees. he said he and his son calculated how much they pay in taxes. federal income, federal payroll tax, state sales tax, property tax cab gas tax, over 50% of what they earned. and your plan is to take the tax rate on successful small businesses from 35% to 40%. the national federation of independent businesses has said that will cost 700,000 jobs. >> what is main street's reaction? we have two of our most outspoken regulars here to discuss. phil cowan, an invest adviser, entrepreneur and best selling author. you can find him at rule 1 investing.com. carol roth, you can find her at carolroth.com. >> good to see you. >> you too, j.j. >> i think it is clear that romney ran all over president obama. from a small busin
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